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Mea Culpa, humorguaranteed  

kzoopair 73M/71F
8610 posts
9/28/2014 9:43 am
Mea Culpa, humorguaranteed


I have a confession to make, a concession too. Humorguaranteed is of course right- Mark Twain is the king of comics. But , oddly, I don't think comedy when I think Twain. He made his reputation and his career as a humorist and might have been the most famous man in the world because of it. Wodehouse wrote ONLY humor, and never had a message to deliver. A message would have been decidedly un-Wodehousian. For me, Mark Twain is in a category where he is the only member. No one else belongs next to him, except maybe Shakespeare, and Shakespeare couldn't do the dialect.
So, it's more than a little weird that I don't think comedy when I think of Mark Twain. My mother read me to sleep every night with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn when I was small. So I suppose Twain isn't just a humorist, he is the voice of God.


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kzoopair 73M/71F
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9/28/2014 10:25 am

    Quoting  :

You are exactly right. Since you agreed with me.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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9/28/2014 10:39 am

Well, then I won't either.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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9/28/2014 1:40 pm

    Quoting mcmaniac:
    I know squat about Mark Twain, so I'll just nod in agreement.
Thank you. Discretion is always the better part of valor.

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humorlife 56M  
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9/28/2014 2:29 pm

I was going to respond to this by loudly proclaiming that you were, once again, wrong, wrong, wrong, and that when I wrote "Mark Twain" in your previous post, it was a typo, and that I really meant to type...

and then I got stuck. Because there really isn't anyone else in the Wodehouse/Twain pantheon. We've mentioned Terry Southern and Paul Krassner as bright, but definitely lesser, luminaries... and in a cheeky moment I might put Harvey Kurtzman (the brains behind the infant Mad magazine) and possibly John Cleese in there as well.

But none of these approach the two main gentlemen under discussion, and I think we're damned lucky to have both (as you may guess, my shelves groan under the weight of their works).

And... I can understand your not automatically thinking of Twain as a humorist. His novels have their comic turns, but he shines as a funny writer in his smaller pieces, especially the two I mentioned in your previous post. If you haven't read 'em, please do: If you have, treat yourself to a reread. I do every once in a while and they -- especially "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" -- revitalize me as a writer. They're better than bourbon. And by better, I mean "almost as good".

We're lucky, as I said above, to have both. And this blogosphere is lucky to have someone who appreciates them and brings 'em to an audience's attention.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
9/28/2014 2:45 pm

    Quoting humorlife:
    I was going to respond to this by loudly proclaiming that you were, once again, wrong, wrong, wrong, and that when I wrote "Mark Twain" in your previous post, it was a typo, and that I really meant to type...

    and then I got stuck. Because there really isn't anyone else in the Wodehouse/Twain pantheon. We've mentioned Terry Southern and Paul Krassner as bright, but definitely lesser, luminaries... and in a cheeky moment I might put Harvey Kurtzman (the brains behind the infant Mad magazine) and possibly John Cleese in there as well.

    But none of these approach the two main gentlemen under discussion, and I think we're damned lucky to have both (as you may guess, my shelves groan under the weight of their works).

    And... I can understand your not automatically thinking of Twain as a humorist. His novels have their comic turns, but he shines as a funny writer in his smaller pieces, especially the two I mentioned in your previous post. If you haven't read 'em, please do: If you have, treat yourself to a reread. I do every once in a while and they -- especially "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" -- revitalize me as a writer. They're better than bourbon. And by better, I mean "almost as good".

    We're lucky, as I said above, to have both. And this blogosphere is lucky to have someone who appreciates them and brings 'em to an audience's attention.
Well. I had my retort to your inevitable response all planned out. It was to be: "I hope you're happy. That was perhaps the post I am most fond of, since I had the most fun writing it, and you've gone and made me apologize for it."
But your grace in victory humbles me, and once more we find ourselves in agreeance. (See, even the amateurs are sometimes knee slappingly funny without even trying.) I do agree- I can't think of another writer fit to sharpen the pencils or to carry away the circular files of these two, Twain and Wodehouse. And both must be read to be appreciated. Film is fine, if you're lame enough to attempt it. Fry and Laurie were great as Jeeves and Bertie, but both Twain and Wodehouse must be read in their entirety. The Sparks Notes don't make the nut.
As to the bourbon....I prefer rum myself. It is a far superior..................

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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9/28/2014 7:33 pm

He really is an essential writer if you want to understand America in particular and people in general. "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" should never be read with a full bladder, though. It's a masterpiece.

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