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An excellent post and good for everyone standing up to this BS. When something is working why fix it.. They always seem to do this hugssssssss V Hugggs B  Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Your link to wordsmith6900 *does* work for me. I understand he is very well informed on this site but in all honesty, I really don't understand why this is going to have such a terrible impact as far as I'm concerned. I can't disagree with Black Flirting wanting to make money, as far as I know, this is not a charity or the Boys Scouts of America. I suppose Black Flirting could have had more tact and diplomacy towards standard members. I can only think of another blogger -Keith and his many alter egos- that I remember and am concerned about interacting with. Otherwise, I can't tell you how annoying it is sometimes to be contacted by people completely out of your listed preferences, because all they can see if a very small part of your profile, if that (I believe just a pic and the quote under?). Then even if by chance said standard members are actually somewhat close to what you're looking for, you have to exchange pics via Messages when you already wrote a profile precisely so that others could know what you're about and what you're looking for. I understand the concerns about security breaches and credit cards stored on any website. But, as callous as this might sound, am just not interested in meeting possible bed partners who are truly $20-$30 short that they can't afford a membership.
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Oh and by the way, I just became keithcancook Keith's #1 fan, I bid on the animal lol, he's "mine" now haha. Just in case standard male members also get free gold memberships based on their "likes", or "fans" or times others contact them etc...?
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How does Elrod feel about it? He looks pissed. LOL! Never been able to send a e-mail unless used points. Can only reply to e-mails. Chat has gone from 20 requests to just five a day for standards. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Your link to wordsmith6900 *does* work for me. I understand he is very well informed on this site but in all honesty, I really don't understand why this is going to have such a terrible impact as far as I'm concerned. I can't disagree with Black Flirting wanting to make money, as far as I know, this is not a charity or the Boys Scouts of America. I suppose Black Flirting could have had more tact and diplomacy towards standard members. I can only think of another blogger -Keith and his many alter egos- that I remember and am concerned about interacting with. Otherwise, I can't tell you how annoying it is sometimes to be contacted by people completely out of your listed preferences, because all they can see if a very small part of your profile, if that (I believe just a pic and the quote under?). Then even if by chance said standard members are actually somewhat close to what you're looking for, you have to exchange pics via Messages when you already wrote a profile precisely so that others could know what you're about and what you're looking for. I understand the concerns about security breaches and credit cards stored on any website. But, as callous as this might sound, am just not interested in meeting possible bed partners who are truly $20-$30 short that they can't afford a membership. And you're right- it does sound callous. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Oh and by the way, I just became keithcancook Keith's #1 fan, I bid on the animal lol, he's "mine" now haha. Just in case standard male members also get free gold memberships based on their "likes", or "fans" or times others contact them etc...?  Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Everyone's wants and needs are different. Some members- like you- may be here to interact with one member and one member only. Others are flailing around searching. And you're right- it does sound callous. I hear many bloggers on here aren't interested at all in meeting in person, but let's not forget this is a hook up site after all (or even one to find any level of committed relationship? If non-paying members *really* want to have a presence and interact, there are the blogs, still. All the indignation here seems to come from people quite involved on the site, with an established presence and an obvious interest in interacting. But those who will be directly affected, the non-paying members, are they as interested/committed to interacting? I wonder. I do understand the concerns over method payments and breaches in security. All I'm saying is the blogging option is still free, can be a good platform to present yourself and keep interacting! Now, if even that effort is too much to ask, then why all the commotion? I think it's a legitimate question.
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Everyone's wants and needs are different. Some members- like you- may be here to interact with one member and one member only. Others are flailing around searching. And you're right- it does sound callous.
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Oh and you misunderstood me I think, because I mentioned Keith and said he's the only one I can think of from the top of my head. I meant as far as standard members. No, he is not the only man I want to meet on here lol. And he's smart enough to have a blog anyways, which makes contacting him a non-issue. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Yep. Sounds callous but a lot of things that are common sense in self-preservation sound callous in relationships. If I don't want to "host" nor go to someone's place right away, and a hotel is needed, why would I not seriously reconsider meeting anyone who does not want to or can't pay $30/month for a subscription? I hear many bloggers on here aren't interested at all in meeting in person, but let's not forget this is a hook up site after all (or even one to find any level of committed relationship? If non-paying members *really* want to have a presence and interact, there are the blogs, still. All the indignation here seems to come from people quite involved on the site, with an established presence and an obvious interest in interacting. But those who will be directly affected, the non-paying members, are they as interested/committed to interacting? I wonder. I do understand the concerns over method payments and breaches in security. All I'm saying is the blogging option is still free, can be a good platform to present yourself and keep interacting! Now, if even that effort is too much to ask, then why all the commotion? I think it's a legitimate question. Yes, this is a business and not the Boy Scouts, but as a non-business man and thinking as a consumer, I want some kind of introductory offer, some kind of draw to get me to stay. It isn't always about can't pay, don't have the money. They're consumers. Potential customers. I believe you're correct that the members here who really do interact are a minority. I get the distinct impression that if it weren't for dipshits who think the site, and the women here, owe them some tail just for signing up, there'd be a LOT less members. No body ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (Except maybe this place.) Since men are over-represented here, it follows that there will be a fair number of dipshits in our sample. We all have a stake in this. We (My wife and  aren't here for hooking up, but if the customers go away so do the blogs. I sincerely think that if they give standard members a FEW perks, they'll keep the new members coming.Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Folks doing reconnaissance, not decided yet on paying, happen to already be given very simple FREE tools such as a profile builder, option to upload many pictures, even write a little blog. And how many even bother? Do you know how many barely describe themselves physically or fill their profile with "blah blah will complete later not sure what I'm looking for etc..." I've had men write me soooo many times, the same men, with always the same lame approach, and don't think many even bothered to try and find out a little about me through my blog. Do I want to continually be approached by men I've already told I wasn't interested? It's just a tedious process to introduce each other every time with a non-paying member, ask all those questions about likes, marital status, sexual preferences, appearance, exchange pics again and again and again, that I simply don't bother. Standard members can barely see profiles as it is and still contact you, aiming in the dark! Do I really want that? Standard members who are actually interested in knowing more about others, to hook up or just be pen pals are not affected, are they, because they're smart enough to dig a little deeper and look at people's blogs. Now, if paying members are concerned about non-paying members possibly losing interest because they aren't given more by Black Flirting to chew on, I believe there still is the option of becoming a fan of a non-paying member, thus giving them a sign there is interest for them and that it might be worth a shot to join and get the advantages of messaging. For that, all Black Flirting should encourage new non-paying members to fill their profiles with as much detail as necessary to attract anyone (duh), upload pics etc...prospective non-paying members should put themselves out there more, to garner interest. Then, a bidding system/purchase of points by other non-paying or paying members to contact said prospective non-paying members could be the needed motivation to purchase? Yes, the reality is someone's gotta pay. If there is such a sense of solidarity here, then maybe those interested in communicating (on any level) with non-paying members should put their points or money where their mouth is. Of course, that can only happen if ALL members put in the effort of writing a decent profile and uploaded pics. Which brings us back to the beginning of my post here. I wonder why Black Flirting simply does not enforce a minimum prerequisite for answering such SIMPLE things as your marital status/height/weight?! when filling a profile and becoming a member. I *really* think that would make this situation move forward. Think about people who like it here already but don't like the types of useless sterile messages that often come from non-paying members. Yes am advocating for quality over quantity even if this does not at first seem sound. But here we are and I guess it's proof that all these lurkers/undecided non-paying members have simply come to form a "bubble" and it's now naturally bursting. Maybe this system was convenient for a few reasons such as keeping in touch with as many members as possible as without "discrimination", however, I hear Black Flirting has not been very profitable for a while and I really don't see how a business can work by giving everything for free. Obviously, the courtesy was taken for granted by many and did has NOT worked as an incentive. But what do I know, am actually very new on here. I also think that enforcing profiles to be filled properly in order to be given free membership would skim the lurkers who would never really commit or engage constructively anyways. Like you said, those dipshits who expect to get laid because they payed their dues would at least understand no one owes them anything and that a minimal effort on their part is also required. That, along with getting enough bids/fans on your account that would then give you some access to messaging or decide you on becoming a paying member might be the way to go.
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Oh and I forgot: remember that silly "Ambassador" program? Black Flirting's points and bling were definitely not tempting to me. Now, undecided members with well-filled complete profiles and pics (mandatory prerequisites to even open an account) now *that* might spark my interest and who knows, make me decide to become an Ambassador 
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Folks doing reconnaissance, not decided yet on paying, happen to already be given very simple FREE tools such as a profile builder, option to upload many pictures, even write a little blog. And how many even bother? Do you know how many barely describe themselves physically or fill their profile with "blah blah will complete later not sure what I'm looking for etc..." I've had men write me soooo many times, the same men, with always the same lame approach, and don't think many even bothered to try and find out a little about me through my blog. Do I want to continually be approached by men I've already told I wasn't interested? It's just a tedious process to introduce each other every time with a non-paying member, ask all those questions about likes, marital status, sexual preferences, appearance, exchange pics again and again and again, that I simply don't bother. Standard members can barely see profiles as it is and still contact you, aiming in the dark! Do I really want that? Standard members who are actually interested in knowing more about others, to hook up or just be pen pals are not affected, are they, because they're smart enough to dig a little deeper and look at people's blogs. Now, if paying members are concerned about non-paying members possibly losing interest because they aren't given more by Black Flirting to chew on, I believe there still is the option of becoming a fan of a non-paying member, thus giving them a sign there is interest for them and that it might be worth a shot to join and get the advantages of messaging. For that, all Black Flirting should encourage new non-paying members to fill their profiles with as much detail as necessary to attract anyone (duh), upload pics etc...prospective non-paying members should put themselves out there more, to garner interest. Then, a bidding system/purchase of points by other non-paying or paying members to contact said prospective non-paying members could be the needed motivation to purchase? Yes, the reality is someone's gotta pay. If there is such a sense of solidarity here, then maybe those interested in communicating (on any level) with non-paying members should put their points or money where their mouth is. Of course, that can only happen if ALL members put in the effort of writing a decent profile and uploaded pics. Which brings us back to the beginning of my post here. I wonder why Black Flirting simply does not enforce a minimum prerequisite for answering such SIMPLE things as your marital status/height/weight?! when filling a profile and becoming a member. I *really* think that would make this situation move forward. Think about people who like it here already but don't like the types of useless sterile messages that often come from non-paying members. Yes am advocating for quality over quantity even if this does not at first seem sound. But here we are and I guess it's proof that all these lurkers/undecided non-paying members have simply come to form a "bubble" and it's now naturally bursting. Maybe this system was convenient for a few reasons such as keeping in touch with as many members as possible as without "discrimination", however, I hear Black Flirting has not been very profitable for a while and I really don't see how a business can work by giving everything for free. Obviously, the courtesy was taken for granted by many and did has NOT worked as an incentive. But what do I know, am actually very new on here. I also think that enforcing profiles to be filled properly in order to be given free membership would skim the lurkers who would never really commit or engage constructively anyways. Like you said, those dipshits who expect to get laid because they payed their dues would at least understand no one owes them anything and that a minimal effort on their part is also required. That, along with getting enough bids/fans on your account that would then give you some access to messaging or decide you on becoming a paying member might be the way to go. Who told you about my points? That was supposed to be a secret! You have a lot of quibbles with the current system, and with the lax attitude of many members. I agree with all of the points you've made. All of the people I personally interact with on the site are already bloggers, and it's their messaging privileges I'm supporting. They took the time and made the effort to do all the things you suggested, and they did it under the former messaging policy. Many of them say they will now leave. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Folks doing reconnaissance, not decided yet on paying, happen to already be given very simple FREE tools such as a profile builder, option to upload many pictures, even write a little blog. And how many even bother? Do you know how many barely describe themselves physically or fill their profile with "blah blah will complete later not sure what I'm looking for etc..." I've had men write me soooo many times, the same men, with always the same lame approach, and don't think many even bothered to try and find out a little about me through my blog. Do I want to continually be approached by men I've already told I wasn't interested? It's just a tedious process to introduce each other every time with a non-paying member, ask all those questions about likes, marital status, sexual preferences, appearance, exchange pics again and again and again, that I simply don't bother. Standard members can barely see profiles as it is and still contact you, aiming in the dark! Do I really want that? Standard members who are actually interested in knowing more about others, to hook up or just be pen pals are not affected, are they, because they're smart enough to dig a little deeper and look at people's blogs. Now, if paying members are concerned about non-paying members possibly losing interest because they aren't given more by Black Flirting to chew on, I believe there still is the option of becoming a fan of a non-paying member, thus giving them a sign there is interest for them and that it might be worth a shot to join and get the advantages of messaging. For that, all Black Flirting should encourage new non-paying members to fill their profiles with as much detail as necessary to attract anyone (duh), upload pics etc...prospective non-paying members should put themselves out there more, to garner interest. Then, a bidding system/purchase of points by other non-paying or paying members to contact said prospective non-paying members could be the needed motivation to purchase? Yes, the reality is someone's gotta pay. If there is such a sense of solidarity here, then maybe those interested in communicating (on any level) with non-paying members should put their points or money where their mouth is. Of course, that can only happen if ALL members put in the effort of writing a decent profile and uploaded pics. Which brings us back to the beginning of my post here. I wonder why Black Flirting simply does not enforce a minimum prerequisite for answering such SIMPLE things as your marital status/height/weight?! when filling a profile and becoming a member. I *really* think that would make this situation move forward. Think about people who like it here already but don't like the types of useless sterile messages that often come from non-paying members. Yes am advocating for quality over quantity even if this does not at first seem sound. But here we are and I guess it's proof that all these lurkers/undecided non-paying members have simply come to form a "bubble" and it's now naturally bursting. Maybe this system was convenient for a few reasons such as keeping in touch with as many members as possible as without "discrimination", however, I hear Black Flirting has not been very profitable for a while and I really don't see how a business can work by giving everything for free. Obviously, the courtesy was taken for granted by many and did has NOT worked as an incentive. But what do I know, am actually very new on here. I also think that enforcing profiles to be filled properly in order to be given free membership would skim the lurkers who would never really commit or engage constructively anyways. Like you said, those dipshits who expect to get laid because they payed their dues would at least understand no one owes them anything and that a minimal effort on their part is also required. That, along with getting enough bids/fans on your account that would then give you some access to messaging or decide you on becoming a paying member might be the way to go. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Oh and I forgot: remember that silly "Ambassador" program? Black Flirting's points and bling were definitely not tempting to me. Now, undecided members with well-filled complete profiles and pics (mandatory prerequisites to even open an account) now *that* might spark my interest and who knows, make me decide to become an Ambassador Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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"If there is such a sense of solidarity here, then maybe those interested in communicating (on any level) with non-paying members should put their points or money where their mouth is." Who told you about my points? That was supposed to be a secret! You have a lot of quibbles with the current system, and with the lax attitude of many members. I agree with all of the points you've made. All of the people I personally interact with on the site are already bloggers, and it's their messaging privileges I'm supporting. They took the time and made the effort to do all the things you suggested, and they did it under the former messaging policy. Many of them say they will now leave.
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Naw. I do once in a while send a welcome message, but I'm not doing it at their behest, or for points, or a gold star next to my name. That's the site's job. I'll welcome who I damn well please. And under the new messaging rules, you can send a "welcome", but they can't read it. I wouldn't do "the site's job" if it came from a genuine interest in getting to know someone.
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Then I'm sorry but it seems unreasonable to me that the people you've personally been positively interacting with now decide to leave...when they STILL have the option to contact you via blogs, and even privately! Quite the rigid stance there! And you needn't be sorry. You presented your point of view politely and with intelligence. It's been fun. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Ha, of course not for a gold star. But so that they may be interested in becoming paying members and getting in touch with me at first as the person who first reached out as "Ambassador" and of course with any other member, or so that they can continue receiving my messages, any which way works. I wouldn't do "the site's job" if it came from a genuine interest in getting to know someone. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Oh and I forgot: remember that silly "Ambassador" program? Black Flirting's points and bling were definitely not tempting to me. Now, undecided members with well-filled complete profiles and pics (mandatory prerequisites to even open an account) now *that* might spark my interest and who knows, make me decide to become an Ambassador     je ne regrette rien
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Take it easy. Be polite when you respond, please. It's fine to disagree, but keep it civil. je ne regrette rien
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$$$exual revolution. [The site guardians denied this as a status post.]
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$$$exual revolution. [The site guardians denied this as a status post.]  It's strange- and sometimes really funny- what gets banned by the keyword bots. I made a comment about seeing a hawk hunt and catch one day and it was banned for violence. There was a rash of bans a few months ago for commenting using too many emojis- the site's own emojis! I wrote a positive review of "Twelve Years a Slave" and THAT post was denied.Yeah- this IS a business so we all get, or should get, that it's about the money. But as consumers, it's often about the money too. If I visit a site and try to make up my mind if it's worth the price, I want to see more than marketing gimmicks and advertising. Sometimes you just have to spend your nickel and take your chances, but you gotta be careful doing even that. We've all heard members' complaints about how this site uses AutoRenew! Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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"the restriction of messaging privileges on the site, which weighs as usual most heavily on the poor but affects us all adversely" What an injustice the poor and undersexed all affected by the recent changes. I wish this was much more like inyourfaceplace. I don't pay anything over there and that zuckerberg is one filthy rich guy. What are they doing right that this place cannot seem to do? Hey let's all start our own place!! Or maybe we should just take all our friends elsewhere. I think I'd try a sex site- with a blogging platform- set up like AssPlace too. They deliver us to the advertisers and make their money that way. There could be a premium version that's paid for and offered increased benefits and fewer or no ads. I don't want to manage anything though. It's more fun to sit in the back row and heckle. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I have no idea how that works. I didn't know that a sender could give points to an addressee to enable a response. I only knew that once I messaged a standard, we could then correspond. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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