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The World in Black and White  

kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/27/2015 8:50 am

    Quoting canyaz:
    When I first started taking photo's, way back in the early 80's, I shot everything in black and white because it was cheaper. I loved the depth and details captured in the shades of gray. Great post.
I remember doing that too- saving money. Color was very cool, but the early color photos faded badly too. Black and white seemed traditional by then, and it lasted.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/27/2015 9:01 am

    Quoting mcmaniac:
    I always imagine pre-1940s as being black and white. Across the street from my 1st business location, in heavily populated San Antonio was an abandoned rock/concrete quarry. The entrances were overgrown with weeds, but an old Brit bike easily managed the terrain and we soon found ourselves on concrete roads between collapsing buildings and towering smokestacks. I brought my Ex one day with her 35mm camera loaded with B&W film. I would park my old beater bike next to a building and she snapped pics. We always told people they were pics of bombed out Germany during WW2. People believed it. Great angle on the topic of Black & White! Those Hutson Brothers look like some trick photography with the same person!
Finally somebody else owns up to it! Thanks, Mac! I thought I was the only one who thought that way.

Those Hutson brothers are cousins, and they're the spittin' image of my great grandfather and my grandfather. It's uncanny. And every now and then when I see myself in the mirror from a certain angle I can see their faces too. That's one of the reasons I went back to wearing my hair long- when I crop it short I look just like those homely fuckers.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/27/2015 9:06 am

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I'm pretty sure earlier generations- who weren't exposed to photos and films the way we were- didn't do that. We're of an age that we grew up with black and white images of the past. It's funny now that I thought that as a small child, but it makes sense. I'll never forget the look on my mom's face when I asked her when the world changed to color. She thought I was daft. It took her a minute to realize what a dumb question I was asking!

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humorlife 56M  
5710 posts
12/27/2015 9:33 am

Ah, I was hoping you'd do something photography inspired... your color nature pictures, as I've said numerous times, are a treat... having you share black and white family photos is intimate and wonderful.

Boy, you're being intimate with an awful lot of people with this post, aren't you? Slut.

Most of the photos of my own childhood (1967-1971 or so) are black and white high gloss (with white borders around 'em). Very much of the time.

As for your thoughts about the emergence of color in the world... this was covered in the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes.

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humorlife 56M  
5710 posts
12/27/2015 9:34 am

Oh, and... as a special bonus, I've managed to work "cartoons and comics" -- your choice of topic -- into the black and white symposium. You're welcome.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/27/2015 10:25 am

    Quoting humorlife:
    Ah, I was hoping you'd do something photography inspired... your color nature pictures, as I've said numerous times, are a treat... having you share black and white family photos is intimate and wonderful.

    Boy, you're being intimate with an awful lot of people with this post, aren't you? Slut.

    Most of the photos of my own childhood (1967-1971 or so) are black and white high gloss (with white borders around 'em). Very much of the time.

    As for your thoughts about the emergence of color in the world... this was covered in the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes.

    [image]
I had forgotten that particular cartoon! I KNEW I wasn't all alone in wondering about it as a kid! (That was a BRILLIANT comic strip, was calvin and Hobbes!)

For some reason I've been focusing on family history again without doing any real research- just browsing what I've gathered and sampling some new data, and some new stories. There seem to be a lot of prompts to do so, like the whaleship movie PD and I saw last night. And I've been doing the same thing with my picture taking. We still hike daily but it's been a grey and bleak winter and not very inspirational. I seem to be stuck in a period of review and retrospection. Fortunately not much Introspection! If I start doing that will somebody please shoot me?

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/27/2015 10:27 am

    Quoting humorlife:
    Oh, and... as a special bonus, I've managed to work "cartoons and comics" -- your choice of topic -- into the black and white symposium. You're welcome.
Thank you. I did give doing that some thought, but it seemed like cheating. Not that I'm above cheating.

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
12/27/2015 12:30 pm

A fantastic read. You write very well.
Like you, I thought of posting about race but shied away from it as the potential for musunderstanding when posting tongue-in-cheek online is too great. Blog wars are bad enough, never mind race wars!
I still prefer black and white photographs to colour photographs.
I still remember watching black and white films while at school. I remember the whirring film projector more than the films I watched.


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/27/2015 3:31 pm

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    A fantastic read. You write very well.
    Like you, I thought of posting about race but shied away from it as the potential for musunderstanding when posting tongue-in-cheek online is too great. Blog wars are bad enough, never mind race wars!
    I still prefer black and white photographs to colour photographs.
    I still remember watching black and white films while at school. I remember the whirring film projector more than the films I watched.
Thank Spunky.

You can only be a smart ass about race and ethnicity under special circumstances I reckon. You gotta be real sure of your audience- good friends who share your warped and twisted sense of humor. Jews make jokes about Jews, Dagos joke about Dagos. But let somebody else mouth off about it and he's in a world of hurt. I know some comedians won't perform on college campuses anymore in the U.S. because political correctness has run amok. Some clown is going to get offended and crucify you in social media. Bill Maher introduced a special segment on his show called "Explaining Humor to Idiots". I don't think it works!

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/27/2015 3:37 pm

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I like black and whites too. They have a very different feel to them.
Who IS that guy? Am I being stalked?

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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
12/27/2015 3:57 pm

Great read KZ. I love history and black and white photos are my favourite.. ty for sharing you did do lots of research on this one! hugsssssssssss V

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/27/2015 4:26 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Great read KZ. I love history and black and white photos are my favourite.. ty for sharing you did do lots of research on this one! hugsssssssssss V
I didn't work so hard, V, but thanks. I had all this on file. I've thought about a family history blog somewhere...but it would have a pretty narrow audience.

These people are mine, so they fascinate me. I've tried to get other people interested in digging into their own roots- every family has stories like mine. In many cases you just have to look for them. A lot of the stories I've collected aren't my family at all. Digging, you never know what you'll turn up, and I stumbled over some terrific stories that have only the most tenuous and indirect connection with my own kin.

For example, I've been thinking about writing about the journal of Thomas Dean, a lawyer who represented the "Brothertown" Indians of western New York in the very early nineteenth century. What do you think? Will anyone read history posts?

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/27/2015 5:58 pm

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I agree that's there's something indefinable about monochrome images. As if color detracted or distracted from line and texture. They can be at once more subtle or more stark. Most of the drawings I've done have been black and white, either pencil, charcoal or ink.

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nightsoul1962 61F
17828 posts
12/27/2015 7:32 pm

Great post!!!
I have many black and white, with many shades of grey, pictures, and for whatever reason, I always feel like those were the good days when I look at them.
Do You have Italian background??

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/27/2015 9:32 pm

    Quoting nightsoul1962:
    Great post!!!
    I have many black and white, with many shades of grey, pictures, and for whatever reason, I always feel like those were the good days when I look at them.
    Do You have Italian background??
Thank you, honey. My mother's family, both her grandmother and grandfather, came from Piemonte.

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sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
12/28/2015 8:49 am

KZ I sure would read a historical post! Go for it! hugssssss V

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/28/2015 10:19 am

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When I was a kid I loved looking through the boxes of old photos. My grandfather would look over my shoulder and tell me stories about the people in the pictures. I still like looking t those photos- I wish my grandfather was still here. He fostered my interest in history and family history.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/28/2015 10:27 am

    Quoting  :

Thanks!
The genealogy sites sometimes have blogs, but they're always How To blogs about the way someone broke through a brick wall in their research, or the technical details about researching your Jewish or Hungarian ancestors. I'm beginning to think about linking my online tree to a blog about the family. I just don't have that many erotic stories about my ancestors for here...although I do have a couple that involve sex. My namesake had fifteen children with two wives. He just never left a journal about his sex life. I suppose it would have been brief, actually. "We didn't have TV or the internet back then, so...."
He outlived both wives- no surprise. Fucked 'em into the ground.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/28/2015 10:29 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    KZ I sure would read a historical post! Go for it! hugssssss V
Thanks V. Maybe I'll give it a try next month.

Hugggggs! B

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keithcancook 67M
18358 posts
12/28/2015 11:15 am

As a history fanatic I am all over these sort of images. The first place my mind went with black & white was to opposites and then to extremes. Race did not come into mind before that. Interesting.

blog on!


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/28/2015 12:10 pm

    Quoting keithcancook:
    As a history fanatic I am all over these sort of images. The first place my mind went with black & white was to opposites and then to extremes. Race did not come into mind before that. Interesting.

    blog on!
Those notions also occurred to me but in different order. Really it's kind of hard to say which thought penetrated first, race or photos. They may have been nearly simultaneous.

I love seeing old photos, and maps too. Now and then I do searches on a well know genealogy site where I'm a member just to look at the pictures people have posted to their trees. Genealogy porn.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/28/2015 7:12 pm

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That photo is is priceless. I'm saving that one! I have a few photos of my wife from long ago, before I knew her, but nothing so exquisite as that! Thank you for posting it. I'd LOVE to see more of those!

The photo I posted above, in response to Keith, is of my wife's mother and aunts, taken by their mother in Oregon in the forties. They liked to go skinny dipping and she took pictures.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
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12/28/2015 7:24 pm

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What's illusion, and what's real? We see in so many different ways. We use the word "see" in different ways, a lot of which aren't about the mechanics of processing images as reflected light in our eyes. I saw a video the other day of a woman born deaf who had cochlear implants and heard for the first time- she was in tears- and I wonder what it would be like to be born blind and suddenly "see". We use that as a metaphor for spiritual epiphany..."was blind but now I see". Sometimes language seems inadequate to the task.

The people in the photos I posted are mine, so they're special to me. You can let what went before weigh you down and hold you back, or it can give you a deeper sense of who you are. I love the connection I feel to them. There are so many different ways to see.

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gardenboy321 60M  
41936 posts
12/29/2015 11:11 pm

Indeed... the austerity of the black & white image can seem very comforting. There is a stillness about them that our colorful world just can't rest in.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
12/30/2015 8:50 am

    Quoting gardenboy321:
    Indeed... the austerity of the black & white image can seem very comforting. There is a stillness about them that our colorful world just can't rest in.
That's a good way to say it.

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