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Re: Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles
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Those are good points. Thanks for that! There seems to be some effort to keep up the pretense that nicelipss suspension was about her using F as her gender, and that it was also the basis for the former top blogger's Petition. There may be some minions of that blogger who are dumb enough to believe that. The truth is that nicelipss' only transgression was becoming popular enough to take over the top blogger spot herself. The new top blogger is clearly female and already the knives are coming out for her. Her fans are being threatened and emails denigrating her are being sent. This is an old pattern that has worked in the past to manipulate the blog list. The old battlewagon attacks anyone who she perceives to be a threat, and she doesn't care how low she has to sink to do it. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Those are good points. Thanks for that! There seems to be some effort to keep up the pretense that nicelipss suspension was about her using F as her gender, and that it was also the basis for the former top blogger's Petition. There may be some minions of that blogger who are dumb enough to believe that. The truth is that nicelipss' only transgression was becoming popular enough to take over the top blogger spot herself. The new top blogger is clearly female and already the knives are coming out for her. Her fans are being threatened and emails denigrating her are being sent. This is an old pattern that has worked in the past to manipulate the blog list. The old battlewagon attacks anyone who she perceives to be a threat, and she doesn't care how low she has to sink to do it. Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason. Thank you, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart 
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Kzoopair, Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason. Thank you, Ana6 You must know as well as I do that the site had agreed....after a lengthy campaign by bloggers....to abolish the list as is stood then and replace it with the trending, active and random lists. I am almost certain it was in 2013. However the site back peddled because of very vocal complaints by the then top blogger and we now have the two systems running in tandem...list view or blogger view. It doesn't matter how often people complain to Abuse and CS...very little is done when it comes to bullying or abuse and I hope you don't mind me saying....If the site is planning to get rid of "the list"....I would actually prefer to hear it from the site itself....even then I will believe it when I see it. Have a lovely weekend.  ~~Anais Nin~~
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Hello Vixen, Thank you for mentioning this. I watched the fall out from the petition and have just heard about these emails and messaging folks. Years back one of my friends in the UK went to my blog and posted about how great this member was..I'd never heard of her until then. I can tell you I saw the "Message to The Resident Bitch" post and viewed it and reported it. I no longer see the msg on site at this time. I have only ever had one profile and this is it. I never saw a reason to have a back up one or ghosting/spying profile. If a member has one as a backup plan, that is fine but if a member uses their multiple profiles to target people or pimp their own blog etc then that is not a good thing and needs to be brought to the attention of CS and Abuse. I will need to ask CS , Andrew and abuse but maybe there should be a limit on the number of profiles one member can have or use. Years back we had problem members ( males ) using hundreds of profiles to stalk and abuse members. I fought for a limit to be placed but the idea was not acted on at that time. I was told the site is working on a way to protect all members and I am working on ways we can fix the damage the petition caused with our LBGT community. I am working on a blog post that is going to ask members what can or should be done to make sure the madness of the petition is NEVER repeated on site again. Every member is important and their rights should always be protected. No member should ever feel they are being excluded and no member has the right to go against the TOU and organize a lynch mob against ANY member. Thanks for reaching out, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Hi Ana....it must be years since our paths have crossed....maybe not since the active days of the "Black Flirting is listening" Group. You must know as well as I do that the site had agreed....after a lengthy campaign by bloggers....to abolish the list as is stood then and replace it with the trending, active and random lists. I am almost certain it was in 2013. However the site back peddled because of very vocal complaints by the then top blogger and we now have the two systems running in tandem...list view or blogger view. It doesn't matter how often people complain to Abuse and CS...very little is done when it comes to bullying or abuse and I hope you don't mind me saying....If the site is planning to get rid of "the list"....I would actually prefer to hear it from the site itself....even then I will believe it when I see it. Have a lovely weekend. How lovely to see you again. It has been awhile hasn't it ? Thank you, you are so right . I remember when the site created the new Blog lists. I was so happy because I suddenly discovered these amazing bloggers and their words that I did not know existed until then. Yes, I do recall the anger some bloggers felt due to the new way of listing and letting everyone be at the top of the list. That to me was the fairest way of handling the whole list. I know how bad the abuse and bullying can get here. I've spent more time on the phone with legal dept and CS & abuse then I'd care to remember. Fighting for either myself or on behalf of other members. I can tell you it is a battle worth fighting and things do get done. I brought this up again with Andrew when I gave him a full report on what had happened to Nice among others. I have asked that the list issue which seems to be causing no end of problems for all members be revisited. Why on Earth have a list when certain members are feeling excluded from or that they " Own " the top spot by right ? You know me, I never give up when I am fighting for everyone even when it seems I am fighting an uphill battle and alone in the fight. When I hear anything concrete I will let you know and ask that either Site Support or CS post something about this on the site. Happy Weekend & Have a Great week to be Hugs, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Hello Buni, Happy Sat Night. Thank you for asking your question which I think I did answer before . No, I am not a paid employee of the site. The way we look at it is that I volunteer or intern on behalf of Andrew who is a friend of mine off site. I know how hard it is to fight the endless battles. I've been fighting behind the scenes for yrs ..for members, for employees , to get Andrew to come back and help work/fix on the site/company. Yes, when I use the term "we've been discussing " it is in reference to whatever issue is currently affecting members. I went to Andrew with all the information in regards to the mess the nasty petition caused and cost us a well loved/admired member in Nice. As I mentioned to Vixen, I am working on some ideas to unify our community, especially our LBGT members who feel targeted at the moment or excluded from all of Us because of that so called petition. When I saw the petition was still on the site..I went straight to employees I trust in abuse and gave Andrew a full report on the whole situation. That is the " We " I was speaking of. Have an awesome Sun, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Missy, Happy Sat Night. Thank you for letting us know about this. I used to think I was the only member who ever did any reporting of abuse. ( in those days the blogging community was not as large or as much of a voice as we are now ) Thank for taking the screen shots , keeping the evidence. If you'd like to share anything with me so I can personally hand it in and make sure something is done feel free to send it to me. Please believe me, I NEVER give up. I fought for this site and its members for yrs and I won't give in to problem members. I said once before that every time we lose a member it is like a light going out. The whole site becomes a darker, sadder place. WE need you posting and your group, HNW is one of our greatest groups and people always smile when it comes to HNW photo day. Thank you for hanging in there and not giving up. Hang in there Missy & Happy Sun, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Hello Sexy, How lovely to see you again. It has been awhile hasn't it ? Thank you, you are so right . I remember when the site created the new Blog lists. I was so happy because I suddenly discovered these amazing bloggers and their words that I did not know existed until then. Yes, I do recall the anger some bloggers felt due to the new way of listing and letting everyone be at the top of the list. That to me was the fairest way of handling the whole list. I know how bad the abuse and bullying can get here. I've spent more time on the phone with legal dept and CS & abuse then I'd care to remember. Fighting for either myself or on behalf of other members. I can tell you it is a battle worth fighting and things do get done. I brought this up again with Andrew when I gave him a full report on what had happened to Nice among others. I have asked that the list issue which seems to be causing no end of problems for all members be revisited. Why on Earth have a list when certain members are feeling excluded from or that they " Own " the top spot by right ? You know me, I never give up when I am fighting for everyone even when it seems I am fighting an uphill battle and alone in the fight. When I hear anything concrete I will let you know and ask that either Site Support or CS post something about this on the site. Happy Weekend & Have a Great week to be Hugs, Ana6  ~~Anais Nin~~
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Hello Vixen, Thank you for mentioning this. I watched the fall out from the petition and have just heard about these emails and messaging folks. Years back one of my friends in the UK went to my blog and posted about how great this member was..I'd never heard of her until then. I can tell you I saw the "Message to The Resident Bitch" post and viewed it and reported it. I no longer see the msg on site at this time. I have only ever had one profile and this is it. I never saw a reason to have a back up one or ghosting/spying profile. If a member has one as a backup plan, that is fine but if a member uses their multiple profiles to target people or pimp their own blog etc then that is not a good thing and needs to be brought to the attention of CS and Abuse. I will need to ask CS , Andrew and abuse but maybe there should be a limit on the number of profiles one member can have or use. Years back we had problem members ( males ) using hundreds of profiles to stalk and abuse members. I fought for a limit to be placed but the idea was not acted on at that time. I was told the site is working on a way to protect all members and I am working on ways we can fix the damage the petition caused with our LBGT community. I am working on a blog post that is going to ask members what can or should be done to make sure the madness of the petition is NEVER repeated on site again. Every member is important and their rights should always be protected. No member should ever feel they are being excluded and no member has the right to go against the TOU and organize a lynch mob against ANY member. Thanks for reaching out, Ana6 Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Kzoopair, Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason. Thank you, Ana6 Something else that might be helpful would be to see some participation by actual paid employees of the site with some rank. I appreciate your comments on this post and I take you at your word that you're genuinely concerned, but frankly, I'd like to see the site put its money where its mouth is. Your input here has been helpful and pleasant and I hope you'll continue to interact with us, but the site administration should be demonstrating its good faith by spending some time and effort itself. A good way to begin might be to restore the "CEO" link that was formerly on the main blogs page. The site needs to back up what you're saying to us with some real action. And! We're all kicking up a fuss because we love the blogging community here and we appreciate the forum that's been created here. This is a very good blogging venue. We want to make it better. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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You're not naive, and it isn't only the list. You're quite right that there is one blogger who's a poster child for bullies and spiteful behavior. But she isn't the only one who succumbs to list envy. It only takes one kid in the sandbox to spoil it for everyone and make a rules change necessary, but we've seen enough of the list to want to discuss a possible change. Banning one member won't change the structure here, and I'll say up front that even a change in the list format won't fix bullying behavior. But I think it WILL help, and that we should try it again. I don't think it's possible for people to construct a perfect system. You have to keep amending it and fixing it to try to fine tune it and get it to work. People adapt and figure out ways to circumvent the rules and manipulate them, and in a way that's admirable. What isn't admirable is when they trample all over everyone else in the process. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I'm blocked from reading any of this blogger's posts, at least the ones that belong to her profiles that are known to me. But I can still read a list and if a post is removed it shouldn't take hours to disappear from the list. So I'm confused by the remark that it's been removed and yet still shows upon the list. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Thanks. I'd be interested in hearing what the list might be replaced with. And I'd like to see a discussion forum if members' input is going to be considered. A number of members have talked to me about a rotating list. The blogs would be featured in a similar way to the three blogger photos that appear above the Most Active Blogs list. I'd enjoy hearing about other ideas as well. There does seem to be a consensus that the list lends itself to manipulation and to unhealthy competition for the top spot. Something else that might be helpful would be to see some participation by actual paid employees of the site with some rank. I appreciate your comments on this post and I take you at your word that you're genuinely concerned, but frankly, I'd like to see the site put its money where its mouth is. Your input here has been helpful and pleasant and I hope you'll continue to interact with us, but the site administration should be demonstrating its good faith by spending some time and effort itself. A good way to begin might be to restore the "CEO" link that was formerly on the main blogs page. The site needs to back up what you're saying to us with some real action. And! We're all kicking up a fuss because we love the blogging community here and we appreciate the forum that's been created here. This is a very good blogging venue. We want to make it better. Thank you for your message. I am in support of a rotating blog list where all sorts of blogs can be featured. Every blog should receive equal attention. I have been asking that a new Community manager be hired. The last 2 we had are friends of mine and did a brilliant job here. WE need that kind of input again. I have seen some of the employees posting to some blogs. I can mention all of this to Andrew. Andrew's blog is still on the site and I have a link to it on my blog but he does not check it as often as he did before. I do know there are employees who do check his blog. I can ask but it is their decision on how and where/when they interact with the site & members. If anyone wishes to send any evidence of abuse to me I will make certain it gets to the right people. You are also correct Sir, when you said the post to Resident is still on the site. I searched for it quickly the other night and had hoped it had been removed. I found it,again today and saw 4 pages of comments and have the link to report correctly now. Have a Great Mon, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Dear Vixen, Happy Mon You are very welcome for my reply. I never felt like you or any of our other wonderful members were grilling me. You cared enough to ask questions that I did My best to answer. I am still angry with myself that once I saw the petition I thought someone was going to delete it right away and alas as we found out that was not to be. I think we all know now that the blogger meant Nice and was determined to have her leave the site. I have been asking how we can bring Nice back (if she wishes) and to have her call CS and just come back. ( if she ever wants to, I wanted her to know the door is open and the abuse she suffered will NEVER be tolerated again, ) You are 100 % right that the kind of behavior would never be allowed in a work place and is a direct violation of the site's TOU. Bullying on site and should NEVER be tolerated against any member.Have a Great Mon , Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Hello Resident, Sad to say you are right..the blog post about you is still there. I did some searching and found it and will report it today. I understand what you are saying about the blog list..I have only heard of 1 blogger so concerned with being at the top of the list..so I think if the list rotates and shows all the blogs on site, introducing members to one another is a great way to keep the doors of communication open and get members to know one another through their blog posts. We need to stop the hate,. Happy Mon, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Thanks for your response Ana....I really hope that you can help in ridding the site of bullying once and for all. It is after all, quite appalling that anyone can get away with treating a transgender person on this site in a manner which would be against the law in most modern civilisations. I really appreciate what you are doing here. You're welcome for my words. It is great to see you. I am going to keep hammering away at the bullying & abuse that has gone on for far to long. NO Member should ever be targeted for abuse because they are either popular or a member of our LBGT community. The site has a strong TOU and we need to defend it and use it when cases like Nice's come up. You know me, I was raised to fight this kind of thing . I won't give up. Happy Mon Hugs, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Dear Buni, Happy Monday. Sorry it has taken me this long to get back to this blog post. I am working on a report to hand in this morning . You are not grilling me anymore then Vixen was. The size of your hearts is showing in how much you care about your friend Nice & all members to protect & keep them safe on site from any kind of abuse or bullying,. Please give Nice my regards and let her know how many of our members miss her. I know she left of her own choosing and a part of me is hoping she will come back so I can see her name on all the welcome back blog postings. I support whatever her choice is but her leaving is a loss for all of Us. I promise you Andrew is listening. I sent him a very long report and told him how sad/angry I am that we lost a valuable member like Nice. No one should ever have to go through what she lived through simply because she is popular and members loved her blogs. You can send anything you'd like me to hand in to my email her on site and from you to me directly to Andrew & abuse dept. I promise you and Nice, I am not backing down, no one is. Happy Mon, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Dear Resident, Happy Thurs I am glad the the blog post was removed. My day was fabulous and now it is even better, thanks to you.Have an awesome Thurs, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Dear Resident, Happy Thurs I am glad the the blog post was removed. My day was fabulous and now it is even better, thanks to you.Have an awesome Thurs, Ana6 Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Missy, Happy Weekend & You're welcome. I was very happy to see this resolved for all concerned. Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Thanks from me too, Ana. Happy Weekend . Thanks to all of you for keeping Nice front and center and standing up and calling attention to when a wrong is being done here against a fellow member. You're Welcome & Thanks again for my smile, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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well dang! I have been away far too long. Now I know why I stayed away. If this person is/was being honest on who they really are then who are we to tell them NO? You're no longer top blogger, grow up and get over it!!
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well dang! I have been away far too long. Now I know why I stayed away. If this person is/was being honest on who they really are then who are we to tell them NO? You're no longer top blogger, grow up and get over it!! Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I have no beef with the idea of top blogger. But I do have a complaint about what some people do to achieve it. I want to see it abolished. I don't expect fine writers to top the list on this site. It is in the end, as you say, chock full of horny men. When the competition gets so crass and opportunistic as it has been, it's time for a rule change. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Got my vote,,keep the perverts away.......................
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