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AdultFriendFinder 2.0 A Better Solution  

Pepperhot37840 55M/46F
7 posts
4/29/2020 1:09 pm
AdultFriendFinder 2.0 A Better Solution

With ice breaker gone it left many long time couple stuck with an inactive profile because they have no gold account. Some of us just can not justify paying such a high price for this service. This is the downfall of a company that is already rich to begin with.

Fortunately some of us are designers and website creators....

Enter ... Black Flirting 2.0.. ok well we won't be using that name but you get the idea. So we are going to toss out our ideas and value your feedback. This project is already under way as we speak.

The new "solution" will be a social media of sorts, think "Facebook for adults"
We will have profiles, video sections, messenger, daily news feed fro members and yes even a marketplace for those who might find it useful.

Now we have to remember, we are not rich (hence we are not buying a gold here) so we have to figure out a way to be able to do this and not go broke trying to run it so we came up with two solutions.
(1) A Simple and very small membership fee, perhaps $2 to $4 per month
(2) We have adult items we sell so perhaps if members will buy from us we can offer it totally free?

All of this costs server space, the script cost, bandwidth and the work put in to run it.
Our goal is to make having fun affordable (unlike Black Flirting) we are working class people just trying to have a little weekend getaway fun and find some new friends. Black Flirting ignores most of us anyway, wouldn't you want a site with staff that actually answer you?

So what is your thoughts on this idea? Having a little fun does not have to be so damn expensive. Lets build a community where we can meet, set up events, make friends and rattle a few beds


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
4/29/2020 4:54 pm

The concept sounds nice, but reality of that structure seems to have it's implications.

"The new "solution" will be a social media of sorts, think "Facebook for adults" " - That's already what exists here on this site. This site is an adult based social media outlet for the most part. We already have blogs here, groups, web cams, chat rooms, blinging, erotic stories, adult magazines/video sections, the "what's hot" section, the "sex academy section", photo contests, etc etc... These are all forms of adult based social media. I see what you're saying, though. You'd basically want a new glorified and affordable version of what this site is that actually has potential.

Again, I think the concept is wonderful, but the implications would be challenging and likely costly. A few thoughts come to mind...

1 .) Social behavior: The vast majority of men who interact with me are losers who are rude, argumentative, ignorant, malicious, hateful, vague, unpleasant, miserable, trolls, have no interpersonal skills, have no communication/spelling skills, etc... How can we expect a social structure of this glorified picture we paint, when society itself has become so deplorable that just basic, respectful, coherent and meaningful communications between two people is nearly an impossibility to begin with? That's one of the biggest issues that this site deals with in the first place. This site is void of mostly any legitimate and enthusiastic women because over the years, most men have successfully pushed women away and turned them off from this scene due to their behaviors. Because of the loss of those real women, the site had to still maintain profit, therefore all of those real women who have left the site for good were all replaced by fake profiles to keep the illusion sustained that women still thrive here. It's all evolved into this enormous game of illusion and lies for profit. In addition, the site cracked down with all of it's limitations and restrictions for it's free members, that to just be in the game almost certainly requires a paid membership (which of course we're paying for an illusion of lies and deceit). But nevertheless, how can we expect decency on any mass level when upon sign on during any given day of the week, I endlessly deal with idiots 9/10 times during any basic interactions? Society is broken and lacks unity, among many other basic things such as decency and respect. That's something that no site can fix, no matter how good our intentions.

2 .) Services - Who or what is going to oversee this 2.0 site? As I have said above, most interactions I have are rude and negatively driven, therefore, who is going to be in charge of policing this new site? How will they be paid? Who is going to take care of customer service and IT issues? Again, how will they be paid upon a $2 - $4 monthly membership subscription?

3 .) For sale - You describe "having adult items we sell", yet that is a bit of a mystery of what that may actually entail. It also questions how this will be controlled, regulated and again, policed. Are we talking about selling used articles of clothing (yes, I totally have hear it all from people selling used panties to other personal belongings). So again, who regulates this? How will they be paid for regulating this? Furthermore, legalities and regulations would most certainly come in to play when we're dealing with legitimate sites who are allowing the sales of potentially hazardous materials (i.e. clothing/sex toys and the bodily fluids or disease ridden items that may be contained on them) being sold and traded from person to person.

4 .) Meeting up -

"Lets build a community where we can meet, set up events, make friends and rattle a few beds "

Although the concept sounds great, we deal with more resistance than we ever do with more cooperation, no matter what the topic and issues may ever be. As if establishing friendships, meeting up and rattling beds weren't already hard to nearly an impossibility for most people (i.e. men) to begin with, now that the current state of fear and paranoia has set in with the recent global virus thing going on, it seems very clear to me that we're desperately trying to hold on to something from the past and aren't yet under the reality of the new world we're now evolving into. We haven't yet seemed to wake up to the reality that people are not even leaving their homes anymore (and this is under direct order of the state in many cases). We're not under the realization that when we actually do need to leave the house for 'essential-only' reasons, we're doing so with rubber gloves on, with face masks on and at a distance from each fellow human by a minimum of at least six feet in distance. How can any of us expect to actually sleep with one another friendly strangers (i.e. intimacy, kissing, sexual intercourse) when the fact of the matter is that we're not even leaving our homes, can't leave our homes or are keeping six feet minimum from person to person, as we all must assume that everyone else in society has this contagious virus? The model portrayed isn't realistic at all.
So whether or not this virus is just a temporary hiccup in history that will pass or not, what it most certainly will bring to the table is a level of social divide, paranoia and fear. All of these realistic elements are contrary of what your pipe-dream model portrays. People will be in A LOT of fear for a VERY, VERY long time yet, even if/after the virus is gone, to actually become comfortable enough to even consider playing this field once again and meet anyone and to do so intimately.

So I think there are a ton of implications involved. The concept is good, but the execution seems unrealistic to what reality and life is dictating in 2020's state of existence. We already have the various platform(s) and tools needed to form friendships online, communications and meets, but the things vitally important to execute success is completely suspended in a fractured social structure of business, ill behavior, disease and otherwise. These things cannot be changed, therefore our ideas of such glorified and successful sites sadly fall by the wayside in fantasy, rather than reality.


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
5/11/2020 3:00 pm

    Quoting  :

You said that way better than I did! You brought up a lot of different things that I didn't mention or forgot to mention. You're absolutely right about everything here. Although this couple has a great vision and really good intent, it falls through by the fact that what they actually want to start is a 2.0 business. That opens an enormous cam of worms on every level, like you said, an LLC, insurance, business strategy, lawyers....plus a whole lot more. You'll need a physical business headquarters building (and maybe other buildings for your business) somewhere for the office personnel, IT crew, the computer control center to handle all of the member activity/personal data, security (both online data security and maybe physical security guards at locations), expensive programs/operating systems that require web designers and so forth. All of these buildings need rent paid for via leases, insurance, the workers will likely have benefit packages, building maintenance will need to be kept up, etc, etc, etc, etc.... What we find we're getting into is an enormous business with enormous costs. A $2 - $4 monthly membership wouldn't cut it for all of these necessary requirements to keep a business sustainable and profitable. This is exactly why Black Flirting charges somewhere between $20 - $40 per month (depending on your selected membership package).

Although we have good intentions here with our low cost $2 - $4 per month proposal with a site that's a community of decent people who simply want to meet up, it's simply not realistic. First, whenever the idea of anything regarding sex is introduced, it automatically attracts a ton of wallies and idiots to the scene who don't know how to act. There goes our decency to hell in a handbag right there. As for membership costs, it's not enough to cover business costs. Even if it was, low membership costs just means that it attracts the kind of people who can afford a low budget membership (I'm generalizing here, but usually that means the majority of folks who are low class). Like you said, if you can find a site of decency without scams, then memberships are outrageous. Why? Because your odds are much better. The people on these sites are higher class people. They're generally successful, wealthy, intelligent and have better manners, take more pride in theirself, etc... . Low cost anything just brings the undesirables. People that live in gated communities generally don't have to worry about break-ins or their car being up on four blocks when they come outside in the morning. Why? Because it's expensive to live here, thus, attracts higher class people. People who have money to buy things don't usually steal. Look at Wal Mart, for example. The store is enormous and can afford to sell their products slightly cheaper than the competition, therefore it attracts a ton of scummy, gross, rude, undesirable people to it's stores because they are the low class of society. This site is similar to that example: It's fairly cheap and reasonably affordable to most, therefore it generally attracts low class people. The $2 - $4 2.0 site would do exactly the same! Here's another great example: Do any of us remember Craigslist when they used to have a personals section up? Let's face it, that was completely 100% free to use. You cannot get any cheaper than free. And look where's that's gotten them. Since it was free, it attracted a ton of low class clowns and many of them destroyed that personals section to the core. Little by little, the site got carried away by the people who would go there posting ISO ads and a lot of it was really weird, bizarre, creepy, gay and low-life type of people who were into some really wacked out shit. Eventually the site didn't want the responsibility of dealing with this bullshit or being held liable for those who were destroying the site, so they eventually closed the personals section down completely. That's exactly what a $2 - $4 site would also do....just attract idiots, losers, clowns, bums, gross, creepy people that nobody wants to begin with. The reason most of these people exist online to begin with is because they aren't successful in the real life to find success in the field. So they lurk on places like Black Flirting and Craigslist, where it's either free or affordable. If this 2.0 site charged it's members $100 - $200 a month, then only the people who could afford it would be there (not very many could). Therefore, the odds for success would be much better, the people there would be of a higher class and the overall enthusiastic purpose and intent from person to person would be taken more seriously for successes to establish.

Reality definitely is a stone cold bitch! We have the site and all of the tools here needed to do the same exact thing as a 2.0 site. It's just that what's really needed aren't the things that are reality in our physical world we reside in (i.e.: respect, dedication, enthusiasm, decency, morals, lack of ignorance, basic reading/comprehension/writing skills, etc..). Oh, and don't even get me started on the whole mobile communications thing (that's another huge story all of it's own). That's why this site generally no longer works for the majority of folks here and is partly why a cheap and decent 2.0 site wouldn't, either (aside of the business/costs aspects).

Anyway, nicely put!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
5/11/2020 3:17 pm

This seems like one of those weird blogs where the blogger posts their thoughts, asks questions and wants feedback, yet they abandon the blog or simply ignore the comments being made without following-up in interaction. I always find that puzzling. Why then blog? Why then ask questions? Why not interact by follow-ups? After all, I thought your entire proposed idea of a 2.0 site was about interaction in a community effort and to get away from such things like we have on this site, including mass ignorance around here? Just curious...

I also find it a little puzzling why there are two nudes of each person of this couple posted on this blog when the topic isn't really about anything regarding that. I mean, the reason I really have no exposed private part pics up of myself on profile or otherwise is because it generally is an idiot magnet (even though I do confess that the heels are my trademark and do still draw unwanted attention). But hey, difference being is that I'm not here with any desire whatsoever to meet people (it's just fun media for me), whereas you both are. So when we post sexual nudes, it gives off the hint of invitation, so what kind of people do we think we're going to attract? Again, the 2.0 idea should be trying to get away from the clowns, not attract them. The idea is that we're looking for decent and genuine people to FIRST get to know one another as human beings for who we are as people. Once friendships are established and whatnot, then I see nothing wrong with sharing some face pics or whatever, if meets are starting to be considered. Sexual nudes not only attract the clowns and perverts, but it also leaves no room for the imagination. Again, just my opinions and open thoughts on the matter....all due respect.


Pepperhot37840 55M/46F

5/13/2020 5:31 am

I definitely understand the steps needed in order to implement this. I have been doing this for about 15 years now. There are many other options to bring in revenue for such a site. We already run 3 successful business models so we know the steps needed to implement it. This biggest hurdles will be finding dependable moderators. IF and I say IF we move it into a business operation then we will look at and consider the needed options.

So far our primary concern (the 2-4 dollar membership) is only to cover additional server fees however IF it begins to grow then yes it will probably need to be adjusted but we would like to keep this both affordable and fun.

As for the adult items, we have an adult online store we ran a few years back and still have the supplier contracts. We moved to a new business and let this one go at that time.

Our first move will be just to create something people can use, enjoy and not spend a lot on as a lot of profiles on here are just click bait.


Pepperhot37840 55M/46F

5/26/2020 3:22 am

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