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rick315875 65M
13314 posts
9/11/2020 9:07 am

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Donald Trump


Here we go again. Donald Trump being caught in a lie. But of course, Donald Trump will make up some lie to explain his lies and his followers will believe it. And of course, I will get comments from Trump supporters who will just call me names and insult me. And ignore the truth. 

Upon the release of his book Rage Bob Woodward editor at the Washington Post also released audiotaped interviews with Donald Trump. As early as February 7th Donald Trump knew the severity of the coronavirus but chose to downplay it. With the excuse, he didn't want to panic the American people. But his so-called panic excuse caused the death of tens of thousands all of them unnecessary if he would have just told the American people the truth. Donald Trump is a sociopath and doesn't care about the lives of the American people. He only cares about how it affects his own personal benefit.

Donald Trump stated that he realized the coronavirus was serious. It would kill 5% of the population as opposed to 1% or less. And stated he wanted to downplay it. And so he did. He lied to the American people causing untold death and spread of the virus. Donald Trump is responsible for causing the death of tens of thousands of people in the US. And should be thrown in prison for the rest of his life for manslaughter if not murder.

Source: Op-Ed

Trump’s Deliberate Coronavirus Deception


Bob Woodward’s tapes tell us something new about how the president lies.Recordings, real or rumored, have been a leitmotif of the Trump era.

There was the “Access Hollywood” tape, in which Donald Trump confessed to his proclivity for serial sexual assault. The fabled “pee tape,” the existence of which would have been pornographic proof of Russiagate, haunted the first few years of the Trump presidency.

James Comey hoped there were recordings of what he described as Trump’s mafia-like efforts to suborn him. (“Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”) Michael Cohen released a tape in which the president assented to a scheme to buy the silence of a former Playboy model he allegedly slept with. Omarosa Manigault Newman had a tape in which she and two other Black Trump staffers worried about the existence of another tape, which she claimed had caught Trump using the vilest of racial slurs. The actor Tom Arnold had a whole cable series about his search, ultimately fruitless, for incriminating Trump tapes.

Trump recordings loom so large because they offer the prospect of breaking through his alternative reality, of nailing down this most slippery and mendacious of presidents, of showing everyone who he really is. But even those that materialize are often quickly forgotten, as Trump’s approval rating stays low but stubbornly stable and one scandal is eclipsed by another. Our politics suffers no shortage of incontrovertible proof of Trump’s venality. What it lacks is accountability.

It’s possible, maybe even likely, that the famed journalist Bob Woodward’s utterly damning tapes of Trump discussing the coronavirus will fall into this same nothing-matters cycle. But decent people with public platforms should try to make sure that doesn’t happen.

It’s not just that these tapes reveal the president lying about the pandemic that has ravaged America on his watch. What’s shocking — even after more than three and a half numbing years — is the deliberate, willful nature of the lies. Unlike most Trump tapes, Woodward’s actually tell us something new about the president, rather than just confirming what we think we already know.
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Because Trump is a prodigious consumer of propaganda, as well as a creator of it, it’s not always clear how aware he is of spreading disinformation. People who’ve spent time with him often conclude that truth has no meaning for him. Woodward quoted Dan Coats, Trump’s former director of national intelligence, saying: “To him, a lie is not a lie. It’s just what he thinks. He doesn’t know the difference between the truth and a lie.” Trump creates for his supporters a carapace of malignant fantasy, but he often seems to live inside it with them.

Yet in recordings Woodward has released of Trump talking about the coronavirus — excerpts from interviews conducted for Woodward’s new book, “Rage” — the president doesn’t sound ignorant or deluded. Rather, he sounds uncommonly lucid. On Feb. 7, Trump described the virus as airborne and “more deadly than even your strenuous flus,” adding, “this is 5 percent versus 1 percent, or less than 1 percent.” It’s not clear whether Trump thought that Covid-19 had a 5 percent case fatality rate — a number that seemed plausible in February — but he clearly knew that compared with the flu, it was several times more likely to kill.

And yet he told the country just the opposite. “The percentage for the flu is under 1 percent,” Trump said on March 7. “But this could also be under 1 percent because many of the people that aren’t that sick don’t report.” Despite knowing that the virus was airborne, he mocked mask-wearing and held several large indoor rallies. He told Woodward in March that “plenty of young people” were getting sick, but over the summer would insist that 99 percent of cases were “totally harmless” and that are “almost immune.”
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We know now that this wasn’t just Trump being buffoonish and engaging in magical thinking. It was conscious deception. Publicly, Trump kept insisting that the virus would disappear. Privately, he told Woodward: “I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

Of course, Trump usually loves creating panic — about immigrants, about antifa, about low-income people invading the suburbs. But there is one place he wants to maintain tranquility — in the financial markets. “Just stay calm, it will go away,” he said on March 10. “We want to protect our shipping industry, our cruise industry, cruise ships, we want to protect our airline industry.” He added, “A lot of good things are going to happen. The consumer is ready.”

And so Trump lied to the country about the calamity that would soon overtake it. His administration didn’t ramp up a national testing or contact-tracing program. He and his supporters pressured states to open up prematurely. A July Pew poll found that only 46 percent of Republicans and those who lean toward the Republican Party considered the coronavirus a major threat to public health, compared with 85 percent of Democrats and Democratic leaners. Trump could have made Republicans take the virus seriously. He chose not to.

Not long after attending the president’s June rally in Tulsa, Okla., the former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain died of Covid-19. In August, whoever is maintaining Cain’s Twitter account tweeted, “It looks like the virus is not as deadly as the mainstream media first made it out to be.” It was Trump who made such a cultish commitment to denying the lethality of Covid-19 into a sign of loyalty. And all the time, he knew better.

Trump supporters may not care that their president has knowingly endangered them, withholding potentially lifesaving information that he readily confided to an elite Washington journalist. But that doesn’t change the importance of what Woodward has captured on tape. It’s now clear that just because Trump is lying to us, that doesn’t mean he’s lying to himself.

Trump’s lies sabotaged efforts to contain the coronavirus, almost certainly leading to many more deaths than it would have caused under a minimally competent and non-sociopathic leader. On Sept. 9, there were 1,176 coronavirus deaths in the United States. In Canada, there were two.

When someone’s actions lead to the death of another, we evaluate that person’s intent and state of mind in order to assign the right measure of blame. When a president’s actions lead to the deaths of thousands, we should do the same.

Source: The New York Times



ProfCocknCuntt 45M
603 posts
10/9/2020 6:16 pm

Wow. Some republicans are just so Off base it is not even funny! And I do not belong to any party!


wb2020ad 59M/61F

10/9/2020 12:09 pm

oh boy what a ass


wb2020ad 59M/61F

10/9/2020 12:07 pm

with people like this the whole world is in trouble , dems are no good , most main stream media will brain wash the simple minded , people wake up vote rep get the dems the fuck out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


localmotion50 73M

10/9/2020 11:28 am

sourceamp; New York Times,, left wing, dishonest reporting,


skindocsoflo1979 44F

10/8/2020 5:12 pm

what a jack ass mistake to vote for Biden


localmotion50 73M

10/7/2020 8:56 am

With the current news of Trump declassifying Russia collusion, guess you should do one about Obama/Biden, Clinton, Brennan and others in there failed attempt to use false info to get Trump removed from office. Biden, well you already know he is a pedo, and his voting record on racism shows he voted for segregation. Go look at Joe Biden.com , shows what he will do . or try to do to this country with Harris if elected.


localmotion50 73M

10/6/2020 8:27 am

Biden: pedophile, traitor to America, info is available on the web


localmotion50 73M

10/2/2020 8:19 am

    Quoting rick315875:
    Sometimes I wonder myself why I bother. These are seriously sick mentally ill people. Look at the level of vulgarity that this Fix-It man goes to just because you disagree with his views. He is a seriously disturbed individual who would murder you for disagreeing.
That was Hillary, Haven't you looked up the Clinton Death List? I guess you think that Joe touching little girls isn't a serious sign of a disturbed individual?


localmotion50 73M

10/2/2020 8:16 am

    Quoting ski76940:
    Trump May have a birther problem. The constitution is pretty clear that the president must be: a person born in the US. Okay, he was born in the US, but after last night's "debate" I'm not sure about the rest of the requirement.
Do you even know what the requirements are? There should be requirements for people to vote besides registering but sadly there are not.


ski76940 70M

9/30/2020 5:37 pm

Trump May have a birther problem. The constitution is pretty clear that the president must be: a person born in the US. Okay, he was born in the US, but after last night's "debate" I'm not sure about the rest of the requirement.

Seize the day...


VOXNIHILI13 43M/40F

9/29/2020 5:22 pm

Cry more lefttards
Trump 2020


The_Stallion_99 37M
35 posts
9/28/2020 4:39 pm

Trump 2020!!!!!


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 2:17 pm

    Quoting OneStrangeBeast:
    I find it humorous that people get so wrapped up in politicians, either for or against them.
    I risk once again being labeled a "conspiracy theorist", but it's all scripted and planned years, sometimes decades in advance. The politicians you hate and the politicians you love are, more than likely, all working for the same, secret society team. They simply play a opposing roles to keep the masses angry, confused, and against one another.
    People really just need to stop being coincidence theorists. I'll give you one example relevant to our current situation.
    Google up an image of the new 20 pound note released in Europe. If you look closely, there's a symbol on there which looks identical (not just similar, but identical) to one of the artist's drawings of a Coronavirus cell which they're constantly showing on the news. The powers that be have a cover story of why it's just a coincidence of course.
    Stop believing the coincidences. It's a global plan....and most of the politicians and leaders from every country are in on it.
    Stop believing the written scripts used repeatedly in multiple places.
There is definitely something to what you are saying. The Democrats and the Republicans are in it for the same game. To enrich themselves. But the Republicans are much worse than the Democrats. But there are a few good Democrats AOC Bernie Sanders and a few other Progressive Democrats who actually care about their constituency.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 2:10 pm

    Quoting Jalan2013:
    You want a revolution? You want to burn and loot and scare people? You have started the revolution! MLB and the democrats! All lives matter! When you all loose your fucking minds after the election and start the super rioting, the silent majority is going to come out of the wood work and put a stop to your silliness! What you are doing is not peaceful protests. You will be put down like the dogs you have become. You hate Trump... That's all you can say. Hillary lost! Stop crying and whining and vote. Peaceful protest get more done! We will see you all after the election! I hope you stop because we are tired of your bullshit! We are not afraid! Vote TRUMP 2020!
Well said. You should be Donald Trump's campaign manager. You really don't seem to get it. Or maybe you just like things the way that they are. A systemic culture of racism and bigotry in this country against blacks and other minorities and immigrants. Donald Trump thinks his supporters are disgusting people yet you still support him.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 2:07 pm

    Quoting Jalan2013:
    You want a revolution? You want to burn and loot and scare people? You have started the revolution! MLB and the democrats! All lives matter! When you all loose your fucking minds after the election and start the super rioting, the silent majority is going to come out of the wood work and put a stop to your silliness! What you are doing is not peaceful protests. You will be put down like the dogs you have become. You hate Trump... That's all you can say. Hillary lost! Stop crying and whining and vote. Peaceful protest get more done! We will see you all after the election! I hope you stop because we are tired of your bullshit! We are not afraid! Vote TRUMP 2020!
Well said. You should be Donald Trump's campaign manager. You really don't seem to get it. Or maybe you just like things the way that they are. A systemic culture of racism and bigotry in this country against and black and other minorities and immigrants. Donald Trump thinks his supporters are disgusting people yet you still support him.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 2:01 pm

    Quoting bilover1916:
    I love limeys like lindoboy who don't live in The USA making comments on shit they have no idea about look at what you have running your so called county please get a clue limey .
Talking like that tells me you are a bigot


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 1:59 pm

You are welcome Mister muscles. How much can you bench?


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 1:57 pm

    Quoting bilover1916:
    Tmptress and rick the liberal minds at work .Yes I want a president who cant spell his own name and a VP who will change her color to fit the situation. Hello I'm Carmela Harris I will say I'm African American but I'm really Jamaica my grandfather own more slave in Jamaica then any other slave owner but since I'm a dumbocrate I will lie about everything to get into office. When I was running for president I called creepy Joe a racist and I took the side of the the women who said he sexually harassed .Oh wait its ok he asked me to be VP so I changed my opinion . The scary liberal mind will believe anything they hear look it up it is called fact you liberal idiots .I will be hear on election day when the liberal heads will be explode one by one cant wait .
You spelled here wrong. I am no fan of Joe Biden. But he's better than Trump. Trump is much worse.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 1:53 pm

    Quoting bilover1916:
    sad liberals like rick so sad living in moms basement cant get laid on a sexsite wow how desperate are you lmfao.
Hello Mr. Muscles. I invited this chick over to my mom's basement. But my mom came down to do some laundry and when they saw each other they had sex. My mom is really hot. And goes both ways.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 1:48 pm

    Quoting nd2hvfun:
    sounds like you have a hard on for Donald Trump, you're not his type whats with the mask, all kinds of creeps on here to cheap to pay for a membership
You are the one who is in love with Donald Trump. Maybe if you're lucky he will sexually assaulted you.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 1:41 pm

    Quoting bobray70:
    It is pitiful that Rick have no life so he can do like a normal liberal and blame Trump for his dumbass life and try to ruin other peoples live by bringing politics to a sex sight.
Usually when you present yourself that way it means that you want to get fucked in the ass. Sorry but I can't. The stench would kill me. Or my dick would fall off. Not even if I wore a condom. The stench would penetrate the condom and cause my dick to fall off.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 12:30 pm

    Quoting bobray70:
    Take your politics back to fake news TV and NYT and get the politics crap off our sex sight let us have some peace from the B.S. or DEMO land.
    The reason I keep showing you my ass Rick is because your politics make me want to crap.
I thought the virus was bad but this is way worse. Maybe the smell will kill the Coronavirus. I think you should set up a meeting with Donald Trump and tell him you found a cure for the coronavirus. Your butt stench!


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 12:27 pm

    Quoting bobray70:
    It is pitiful that Rick have no life so he can do like a normal liberal and blame Trump for his dumbass life and try to ruin other peoples live by bringing politics to a sex sight.
I hope no one else was in the room with you when you took that picture. The stench must have been horrendous. I recommend wearing a mask at all times when you are around this guy.


rick315875 65M

9/25/2020 12:25 pm

    Quoting bobray70:
    Don't you think there is enough politics ruining TV radio and news papers do you have to bring the politics crap to an adult sex sight also.
    Let's at least have sex without damn politics.
Holyshit (pun intended) that has to be a new low in vile vulgar disgusting behavior. But not unexpected. There is no low that a sycophant Trump supporter is willing to sink.


Lippenbalsam 63M
306 posts
9/24/2020 11:01 pm

    Quoting Fixitman32:
    GO DONALD J TRUMP...
    GO DONALD J TRUMP......
    FUCK THE LIBERALS.............
    FUCK THE DUMBOCRATS....................................
..and welcome to Idiocracy

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